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10:43 jfiremorning all
10:44 tmcwmornin!
10:49 RichardF(afternoon?)
10:52 tmcwalexbarth: you good to meet in a few?
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10:55 alexbarthyep
10:55 tmcwman, if we didn't live in dc with all of these hollow buildings, multipolygon relations would be punted..
10:56 RichardF laughs
10:56 RichardFstupid OSM design decisions of the past n years: we actually had an area datatype, and we junked it because "oh, everyone just uses closed ways instead"
10:59 tmcwif anyone wants to call in, I'm tmacwright on skype
10:59 tmcwactually, maybe it's best to do the other way around, I'll call john now
11:00 alexbarthtmcw: small conf room?
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11:02 tmcwRichardF: cool, we'll keep subtext in irc as well as skype
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11:03 RichardFexcellent
11:03 tmcwRichardF: you want to skype in or cool with just irc?
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11:03 alexbarthRichardF: would be awesome to have you on :)
11:03 RichardFI'm good with IRC
11:04 tmcwcool, so kicking off
11:05 jfiredown to 38 issues
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11:05 jfireremaining issues tend to be harder design and arch issues
11:06 jfirestarting to test ad-hoc read-only against real OSM data
11:06 tmcwso, big tasks are presets, translations, documentation
11:07 tmcwhard bugs:
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11:07 jfire^ relations
11:08 tmcw^ multipolygon relations
11:08 RichardFdefinite +1 to jfire on #276: "The major relation types should have dedicated sub-editors which each provide operations appropriate for the type"
11:08 jfire154 is split ways
11:09 jfiresplitting ways requires deep knowledge of relations
11:09 tmcwhard to test, but we can punt on it
11:09 tmcwand just say 'we don't support it'
11:09 RichardFjust borrowing the P2 logic for split ways would be ok, I think. it's not something I recall people complaining about.
11:11 RichardFmultiple selection doesn't need to be a priority IMO - it's largely a power-user feature
11:11 tmcwwe've also got 11 design tickets, about 7 or 8 of which are very straightforward
11:11 tmcwand perfect to be knocked out by samanbb and co
11:11 tmcwthe general strategy is to do one-person-per-hard-bug and knock out the ones highlighted here so we can start editing on id for real
11:13 jfirefor testing we will create a separate index page that accesses the main database
11:13 jfireinterested volunteers can try it out
11:14 jfiremost of remaining bugs are probably on the order of a couple days of work
11:15 tmcwwho's interested in general..
11:15 jfireiD is fairly well covered at a unit test level, needs more manual testing for integration level, usability, data model details that we haven't learned about
11:15 jfirewe have several existing contributors that would be interested in testing
11:16 tmcwgreat work by sven on the translation angle: https://github.com/tabacha/javascript-i18n-example 11:16 tmcwbut no movement there at this point, it'll be a big post-alpha-1 refactor
11:17 jfirewe'll be updating that with recent priority decisions
11:18 tmcwworking on basic communications, when we'll be doing a blog post about alpha1 and how it'll be framed
11:18 tmcwalso have posts about design from saman and oauth from tom queue
11:22 tmcwbig 'feature esque' tasks for post-alpha-1 are presets, first run docs, etc
11:22 tmcwbut we'll have a larger planning convo about that soon
11:23 jfireother things we're thinking about are refactoring some of the core code that has a bit of tech debt
11:23 jfiremobile editing
11:23 jfiretranslations
11:23 tmcwbut the big big one is relations editing, because it's a blocker for deployment
11:24 jfireoverarching goal is to take care of the things that would be block deployment on osm.org
11:24 tmcwso far
11:25 tmcwbig bugs -> presets -> (translations?) -> relation editors
11:25 jfiremassive props to the taginfo project
11:25 jfiresuper helpful resource
11:26 jfireJochen just released v4 of the API with some features tmcw requested
11:26 tmcwalso samanbb brings up 'create a website for id'
11:26 tmcwyes that
11:27 tmcwbasically to quickly introduce users & devs to id
11:27 tmcwexplain what it's about, linkdrop about id
11:28 tmcwwe'll just keep the name for now
11:29 tmcwmostly because it doesn't have to be a public name, it's a codename and people will know id as the osm editor (we hope)
11:29 tmcwokay, scrumming now
11:29 tmcwansis starts
11:29 tmcwhe's been working on improving the tag reference table
11:30 tmcwjohn has been picking off bugs, looking into multipolygons & relation stuff
11:31 tmcw(assigned both to him)
11:32 jfiretom has been adding low hanging features, geocoding, tinkering with labels
11:32 jfiretaginfo-related enhancements
11:32 jfirelooking at bugs 371 352
11:32 jfire342
11:33 jfiresaman will be catching up, doing a design pass on some things that have changed
11:33 jfiregoing through design issue queue
11:33 jfirebut first, thinking about iD website
11:34 jfirewill be seeking RichardF's input
11:36 tmcwnow to saving this irc log... heere we goo